A Universal Wine Web App API
My universal wine names database idea led to a flurry of emails and phone calls. Several of my peers like the idea, but no one wants to give up their proprietary data. We all see our databases as assets.
In reality, however, while the wine names database is the foundation of any application, it is the information transfer/processing/storage that makes the application exciting. If online wine applications could trade data, what type of exciting things could we do:
We could also solve the problem not having a public normalized wine database by using the consortium to create a system where each member's database could be normalized against a common dataset without revealing either the dataset or individual databases to the public. Everyone's IP is protected, but we get the benefits of a pseudo-open dB system.
Any takers?
In reality, however, while the wine names database is the foundation of any application, it is the information transfer/processing/storage that makes the application exciting. If online wine applications could trade data, what type of exciting things could we do:
- a tasting notes system that aggregated notes from multiple critics, publications, wineries and individual tasters
- a comprehensive wine price database
- a cellar management program that knew what you bought no matter who you bought it from
- a wine tracking/transfer system that tracked your wine as you moved it from store to offsite storage to your house
- easy wireless phone access to all your wine online applications
We could also solve the problem not having a public normalized wine database by using the consortium to create a system where each member's database could be normalized against a common dataset without revealing either the dataset or individual databases to the public. Everyone's IP is protected, but we get the benefits of a pseudo-open dB system.
Any takers?

10 Comments:
Michael,
We at inertia beverage group would be interested to be involved in the project.
Inertia - Powering the Wine Revolution
---Paul Mabray - CEO
Hello Michael,
at adegga.com we're trying to solve some the database problems so we're interested in contributing to help normalize a common database.
How can we help?
André Ribeirinho
Adegga.com - Social Wine Shopping
I have gotten good feedback in comments and in email. I think I need to put a bbs together and invite a lot of wine app people to begin a discussion. Topics would include: 1. Should we have some sort of internet wine consortium? 2. how we would develop a db 3. what api's should we develop. I will invite as many sites as I can find, but post a comment if you want to be sure to be invited when the bbs is up.
Michael
Add us too.
Philip James
WineMessenger.com
I am interested from a CellarTracker perspective.
Did not wineXML.org try to create such a schema? VinoXML (http://www.vinoxml.org) is working on an open standard for the exchange of wine information and the International Standard Wine Number (http://www.iswn.org) is creating a worldwide standard that uniquely describes any bottle of wine with a single code. Rather than creating another universal wine names database, would it be better to work with these organizations?
Where are we on this?
P
sorry, forgot to leave it was me - Paul Mabray - paul@inertiabev.com
I noticed that Paul found out about vinoxml.org (please note that winexml.org became vinoxml.org) and I am sure if any of you have concerns not yet addressed by the version 1.0 standard we put together we could work together to come up with an updated version of the vinoxml schema.
We did not intend this to become a database of wine information BUT a standard to exchange information about wine in a standard format.
I took note of the "http://www.iswn.org" and see that the number could easily be stored in the barcode field we included in our schema. I will look into this a bit more as it might be interesting to extend the support for iswn in the schema.
If you like to continue the discussion in a BBS we would be happy to open/create a section/forum on the vinoxml.org site.
Werner
Hi guys I am interested. I am actually working on an open source project trying to collect anything I can about wine.
Please email me on : info at wordsfinder com
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